Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT

Subject: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:46 pm

I figured this would be a nice topic to have on the forum in case any one here is too lazy to go on the IT proboard and check for themselves.

Some info people may or may not know, but I'm putting it down anyway. :3
Here's the deal so far, from what I've read of Stacey's comments regarding the game (thought not too much has been said about the matter):
- there will be NO PRESETS, and NO ITEMS. Lemme say that again: no presets, and no items. Apparently the customization is a helluva lot better than what we see in IT, so there's no need for presets. Plus presets, I guess, take a toll on the servers and even costs money to put in the game (don't ask me, this is what I've read from people's posts who are in the know how). Sorry Xiggy.
As far as items go, I assume this is because of all the item drama, especially with private items and such. Who knows, Kovu may decide to add items back later into the game after its release.
- no more updates on the IT we all know and love
- the game will not come out until after summer (after summer summer, or summer break? idk)
- the game will be known as FH (Feral Hearts)
- private maps are iffy. They may not work in the new game (unconfirmed)
- there will be a separate mesh for feline and wolf. The wolf hasn't been worked on yet, but so far, this is what we can see of the feline mesh -
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Reason why this improved version is being made:
- the coding on IT is royally screwed up, and beyond repair by even Kovu's hands. This is why we get the silly position glitches and glitches in general.

If anyone has more information to give to this topic, it's totally okay; if anyone has an opinion and/or thoughts on the improved version of IT, feel free.
Discussion would be nice, and I feel that this is okay to put on the forum because IT is obviously a part of this Organization's lives, so why not?

Posts : 76 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30

*raises hand* Can we continue our I.T. organization 13 there?

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:19 pm

I suppose we have no choice (and I, for one, would like to anyway), because IT has a 99.5% chance of being taken off Raz's servers and becoming permanently off-line.
Unless of course, Tigg is in the right and her friend can take over and run IT on her server instead.
We don't really know.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:53 pm

I personally think IT is okay the way it is.
And if there's so many private item issues, they shouldn't exist in the first place, honestly. Or they shouldn't make items so friggin' rare.
To add onto that, if you're the one to get the last hit on the animal, and it drops an item, only you should see it. X_X

Geez. And since I don't want to double post, I'm not downloading maps, anymore . The last map (PlanetaryBase) gave my laptop about 19 viruses from the Mediafire website. I have to take care of the porn downloading itself on my computer, and the Malware software that's doing the same thing. I won't be getting on IT until this problem gets fixed. It's really, really annoying right now, and I can't go on the Internet for five minutes without the Error Report thing popping up. I'll only be on my main computer until this problem gets fixed.

I'm srs about the pronz. X_x I deleted it, and when the laptop was OFF, it re-downloaded itself.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:12 pm

I don't know how your laptop could have gotten so many viruses; my laptop is virusfree, and i've used that site plenty of times.
o.O

Like I said for the reason that IT isn't staying the way it has been for almost two years now is because of the severe coding issue IT has. It's apparently hackable, easy to spawn items at will, and do other things IF YOU KNOW HOW, but the fact remains that you CAN. Plus it's messed up, like what I've mentioned in the first post. This is why we get glitches where one person sees a certain position on their screen whereas someone else sees another, or the "you've been banned" glitch, among others.
I personally would like to see the end of those glitches, even at the cost of no preset and items. :'P

As for the last hit on the animal thing, I don't know about that. What if a person attacks the same animal you attacked first, and you don't want them to? And THEY get the last hit? They get whatever the certain animal gives, and if they do drop something (let's say it was a Sea Serpent, and it drops a ZT Helmet), they only see the item and get it when you should, since you found it first.
If there's going to be any sort of system like that, it should be that, when you attack an animal first, NO ONE ELSE can just waltz over and try to steal it. They won't be able to. Unless, say, Kovu enables party members to.
Unless that's what you meant to say...?

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:31 pm

Whatever the hell is going down with my computer, McAfee isn't downloading right. But seriously, not using that site anymore.

And yeah, that is what I meant. First attacker gets the item, but as for the skill, who even cares anymore. ._. Tames and cures, plz.

I was going to say something right here... Oh... They shouldn't delete accounts or anything. I seriously worked my booty off. X_x I wouldn't be up to making all my characters, all over again. Especially my new account, I love the characters A LOT on that one.

But, of course, I wouldn't like to see the items gone. They're gone, then they come back, and basically, we have to work on getting possibly VERY rare items again. I know it took us a loooong time to get those heart necklaces, and what if it's harder the next time we want to get them again? Same goes for the Rainbow Tie you got me, and those horns. I recall Dem said that he hunted all night for Xaphans for another person and I.

As for the eyes, it took me awhile to get them, even if I'm only down to the two blue, and one blind. I didn't even get both gold, and never got to both red, and got both blind, but I traded.

Another thing they could add... limitless party members? And items, if they return in the new version? I'd find it convenient. I don't like having only so many items. X_X Like, seven or something? I really have more things I would like to add to my character. And others as well.

We'll just have to hope for the best in this. Could be false hope, it might not be.

I typed a lot. XD

I don't know, this is all just my opinion, and I may sound rude with my opinions, because I'm in a bad mood from all this virus crap, and I apologize.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:30 am

Well I for one am somewhat disappointed.

I was honestly looking forward to making presets since I never got a chance to in Impressive Title. Hopefully if Tigg's friend takes over she'll activate them again.

As far as items go, I don't like private items either, but if that is the case, why don't they just take the private items out? Make them rare or something. But not so rare that nubs will beg for them from other players who have them.

The reason I'm saying this is: The items are actually a goal for me. Hopefully the new game will have quests or missions to do, kind of like World of Warcraft or similar games.

Which brings me to my epic rant: what I think should be in the game.

~~~

Once more, items. I've grown used to the things my characters wear and without them I feel naked xD

Anyway, yes. More places to explore, more things to fight, more abilities in battle, levels, etc.

More places to explore
~Well, the maps on IT are nice and all, but most of them are too small and too bland. There needs to be... More. Just more. Perhaps secret maps and such.

More things to fight
~Hunting is good and all, but I'd want enemies, like rogue lions or something that automatically attack you. Like in the Halfblood campaign, those shadow lion thingies.

More abilities in battle
~Such as stronger powers. Things like larger abilities, like a "pound the ground, rings send out, hurt surrounding enemies" kind of thing like in those good ol' games. Perhaps even magic abilities? I dunno, I'm starting to think about Gauntlet xD

Levels
~We were talking about this once. A Leveling system. Just basic "kill animals or complete quests to get points and level up" sort of thing. That would be another good goal.

PvP
~We talked about this once too. Sort of a challenging duel thing where you can challenge other players. The two players have to accept in order to duel. Then, perhaps the winner will get points to level up? The stronger the opponent you beat, the more points you get. For example, if the enemy was, say, lvl 54, you'd get more points if you kill them then you would a lvl 21 enemy, etc.

Pride/Pack system
~Well in Guild Wars, whenever you'd join a guild, you'd get a cape and it said what guild you were in, etc. Perhaps FH should have this as well. Not a cape or anything, but it would say under your screenname or something "Imara Pride", "Organization XIII", etc. And whenever a pride name is taken, no one else can take it unless it's deleted.

I could go on and on with ideas that I have for the game, but I won't. Too lazy xD

Anyway, on the bright side, the lion mess looks epic so far :3

Whatever the case may end up being, I still cannot wait for the new game. I'd love to see how it turns out~!!

~Roxas

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:28 am

Get AVG free edition. Mcafee fails at life.... it never did what it was supposed too. AVG or Avast both are great.

My fear is with levels you end up with like God players who end up being kinda like bullies.

I want it so players can interact with each other. and maybe not be able to walk through each other. maybe people would be less rude about trampling somebody randomly.

um a better roar would be nice too. and a howl for the wolves of course.
maybe different variations on how fast somebody can run. I hate in IT everybody runs at the same speed no matter how big or small you are. :3

I just hope they keep the cheetah fur pattern.. and the hyena too. and i kinda just want it to be verrrrryyyy slightly more realistic looking.

um i donno what else to say.. Very Happy

and what the f am i doing i have class soon...

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:39 am

I'll get in when I get rid of the viruses on my computer. It's working so far.

Yes, with the running speeds. Just walking and running is rather poopy. X: Maybe they can have like a trot? You know?

If they decide to keep the wings... they can make it where you can choose markings on them. I think that would be a nice touch.

That pride idea seems awesome... but we'd have to like spazz to get Organization XIII. Violent spazzing. >:O

Fur textures, maybe? Like... smooth and stuff. More manes would be nice too... I'd like to have the mane that covers the one side of the face on the OTHER side. It'd look nicer to me. xD;;

Tch, there's so many ideas we can throw in, but, to me, the missions/quests, levels, magic, etc., sounds a bit too much like other MMORPGs. Take RuneScape for example. My first thought reading that was RuneScape. I, for one, used to play RuneScape. I played it when it was cool, btw. X:

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:11 am

All I care for is that FH is put on a server that doesn't always die on us like it has been doing for two straight nights in a row. What is this bullcrap? I don't want to have to put up with that for seven months (and I have a nasty, nasty feeling that I lost the ZT and Lupines when the server went down once again last night, I hope I'm wrong).

I also only care about pets. I think they're a neat addition. And if they are included, hopefully they'll allow you to give it a name, and when people click on them, they see the name instead of the pet's species.
Also, if they decide, "To heck with it, let's just add items anyway, but no private ones," hopefully they'll truly go with some people's demands and allow items for pets too. I for one am all game for that one. :'D
But even if they don't include items in the long run, I really don't care. At least I won't get item beggars like I do constantly on IT.
-_-'

More actions would be nice. Idk what ones to say, but just more... xD

I think the texture idea is a great idea. Maybe Kovu could incorporate some in the game that you can already choose from for your character, and possibly even make a system where you can upload the texture to the game as an added bonus, whether for public use or your own personal use.

For presets...well...I won't complain one whit if I don't see anyone running around with a preset, admin or not. Because then that's not fair to the whole community. And if presets actually cost money to put in the game (which is kinda like, "uh, what? really?"), then just don't do it, and certainly don't let specific people have one while everyone is left out.
Personally, I think Kovu should, if not on the release of the game, later, make it so that you can paint directly on the character you're creating to play in the game. It would be kinda like making a preset, except you're not doing it in photoshop or in GIMP or whatever program you have; you're doing it in-game.
Though creating a system to do that may take a lot of effort - but hey, it would be a very pleasant surprise.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:12 pm

Names would be nice for pets. <3 Very nice touch.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:15 pm

That pack/pride thing that Roxas said before really interested me. That acctually aint a bad idea. Like we would each be in this pack and save what...3 remaining spots for the Vex Lex and Saix we dont have? And when we do find one who we like and is actually loyal to the Org, and that everyone likes, there should be a button when you click on them that asks them to join our pride. And of course it would be up to him if he wanted to join & whatnot.

And i know how some of you are iffy about private items in the game? Like yeah there will be some regular items in the game that you go off & hunt for but also, each pride/pack has their own personal items for the members. And theyre not tradeable, or if someone may quit the Org (God forbid D:), then they wont have that item anymore.

But me saying this is kinda too much, i doubt Kov would put their time into doing this for each pack, but its still a thought!

And what Boss said before about adding your own design on the game aint a bad idea either!

Oh oh oh!!! And you know how you make a charrie and make a name for it, there should be only one charrie with that name, and if someone decides to try and make that same charrie with that name, then something would pop up saying "that name has already been used"......but then again theres ALOT of users that are gonna be playing this so theres probably gonna be like 50 Nalas and 100 Simbas. -_-" ..

Okay im done ranting for now...

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:26 pm

I don't think that name thing is a good idea... What if someone gets to Xemnas, Xigbar, Xaldin, etc. first?

As for the pride thing, it should be up to the pack/pride/clan/whatever to design it. It would make it better.

ALSO, why not a flip the side of the mane option. How. Happy. Would. I. Be.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:46 pm

also the idea of having a fur length bar, much like the bar they use fro height in IT now, im so tired of seeing everyone have just tufts as extra fur and the rest of there body is as slick as a table top,

as you all know im all for items, if they add private or not i could care less but as long as there is some form of item,

a trading system, sme of us have discussed this before, a more safer way to trade items IF there is any.

i would like more actions, for ones said character, and also have the animation not as stiff

having actual grass would be nice, as in a fully coverd ground with dirt spots etc. not just a couple of bushes here and there and some trees. It would also be nice to have a reflection in the water.

speeds for characters would be VERY nice, like dem said all the sizes are the same speed, the bigger you are the slower you are i'd say.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:07 pm

There is already something like that, Larx. A specific item for a clan/group, I mean.
The I-bracelet stands for "Imara" bracelet, so it belongs to the Imara pride. But obviously it's been leaked out (because certain boss prey drop them, not sure if that stands true right now...) so people who shouldn't have them because they're not in the Imara pride have it.

Yeah Xig, if there's items, it definitely would be nice to see a trading system (and like we said specifically, something like Runescape).
But idk, I just have a feeling that the "no item thing" might just be a ruse and there may turn out to be some when it releases, but who knows. We'll have to wait an see for ourselves.

Flipping the mane for certain ones is actually pretty nifty, when I think about it. As is lengthening or shortening the fur. Even for tufts at the end of lion tails; that would be a nice touch, too.

There's so many things they can do, though, and I doubt they'll be able to get in every single thing by the time late summer rolls around.

Yeah I agree with Zexion on that. o.e
As much as I hate to see horribly made Xemnas's running around...or any other horribly made Org. character for that matter...having a name system where if one name is taken and can't be used again seems like a bad idea. Because if someone got Xemnas before me, I'd be an unhappy camper, all right.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:01 pm

Yeah, that name idea popped into my mind as well, but of course there are all those problems we mentioned that came with it, too.

As for the fur lengthening, that is an excelent idea in my opinion. Also, perhaps a mane lengthening tool too? So we could make that face-covering mane longer or shorter, etc.

About the trading system, I once again bring up Guild Wars. In that game, you'd ask someone to trade, and two little windows popped up with a few empty slots. The other character would put in, in IT terms, say an eyepatch, while you put in a tail feather or something. Once done, you click something that says accept trade, and once both players accept then the items are swaped and automatically put in the stash.

I really like the trading system for that, soo yeah.

About the presets. I really like Xem's idea of painting it in the game. And also an automatic preset installer thingy that comes as an addition would be swell! Perhaps even a construction set like for Morrowind where you can make maps with that instead of coding and drawing etc. etc.

Anywho, yeah. Can't remember what else I was gonna add xD

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:16 am

Fur lengthening and mane lengthening tool would be AMAZING. :3

That trading system would be awesome... A lot like Runescape's trading system as well, but you can only trade so much at a time.

There could be more markings, maybe? But, still, that painting on the character idea is nice.

Or, they can put seperate markings... like for the coloring, ya know? Seperate colors for Head, Body and Tail? That would be a nice touch. >>

(Stupid font color isn't working. D:<)

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:17 pm

Good idea, Zex. That should be added in along with seperate colors for tufts and manes. For exapmle, Nala mentioned to Kov that she needed white leg tufts but her mane was Gold.

Another idea:

Being able to kick someone out of the party! Like if you're in a party and someone starts spamming of insulting (( or harassing like Shadowrain did )) then the person who started the party should bve able to kick someone from it.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:46 am

Maybe for the eyes too. What if I wanted a character with blue and gold eyes? >> That would be interesting.

Tints... like brown with a black tint, or gray with a red tint. Very Happy

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:16 am

Yus! 8o

And if Items are ever added then being able to change the color of them OR all items coming in a bunch of different colors would be nice o3o

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:06 am

Well from what I've read from 'Howl' on the I.T. forum. And correct me if I'm wrong on this but he/she posted something saying I.T. wasn't going to shut down and just be on a different and lower quality server. Quoted from what Howl quoted:

Quote :: when Feral Heart is launched i will be moving IT to a weaker server, so it won't manage to be full like it has been over the holidays. But should have a decent basic capacity and i will continue to run it like that untill the numbers drop.

I'd like to believe what was said was true, but Feral Hearts should be good too (Feral Hearts sounds like Kingdom Hearts too lawlz, how ironic.) Kov/Raz did mention a while ago that presets were closed until they found a way of automating it so, maybe they will on FH? S: The meshes look better and a lot neater than I.T's but right now I'm excited for the new game to come out. ^_^ All good ideas you guys are mentioning! o: I wish they did come out in FH. I'd do a barrel roll. xD

EDIT: Sneak peek of Feral Hearts (FH)

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:35 pm

That is just TOO epic 8o

When it says easy preset creation, does that mean that there WILL be presets? O3O And the sliders to completly customise the lion is just pure awesomeness.

Holy crap I just can NOT wait 8D

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:53 pm

I'm too lazy to update the topic post.
:'P

But all I have to say is wow. I can't wait for this, skjgdhldjhgj.
This will definitely make up for no items. All the complaining about "WAAAAH I'M GOING TO LOSE MY BIO/CHARS/ACCOUNT" and "WHAT ABOUT MY ITEMS?!" is ticking me off. I hope they just take IT off the servers.
|:

Though, yeah. Anticipation much.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:24 pm

Ding ding:

- despite what the video showed, presets are STILL iffy; they may be released, they may not be released, or, if they are released, they will have to be paid for. This has yet to be confirmed, since Kovu is unsure himself.

- because of the demands in I.T regarding items, they're "not going to be put in game": though Kovu apparently wants to put some in, at least, so this not entirely confirmed as well.

A lot of speculation on that game, there is.
.-.

Subject: Re: Info/Opinions/Discussions On New IT Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:19 pm

What I think should happen is he should release the game with no items, but, say, maybe a month into the new game, he should release items and surprise us without telling us. I dunno, random idea x3